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 CJ
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I had setup the Motioneyeos on a PiZero W (YouTube video out like 3/4 years ago). It was a great and detailed project (as always). Now I have all new Pi Zero W2 and since Buster and the PiCamera modules will not be supported soon (Pi corp will soon be focused on Bullseye and libcamera) I'd like to get ahead of the game. I'd like to upgrade to Bullseye and the PiZero W2. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best ways to do this? Any comments on using the 32 bit or 64 bit of Bullseye? Any issues with running Motioneyeos on? Anyone do a video yet on yje subject or can point me to a site that will help with the new setup?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

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@cj I am interested in that as well, I just a moment ago was telling a friend I want to dump the ESP32CAM and move to a much better camera on a Pi, hopefully the Zero W or even a PICO. I will start looking into that tomorrow maybe.

 

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Posted by: @cj

I'd like to upgrade to Bullseye and the PiZero W2.

Rpi always recommends a fresh install rather than an upgrade between their operating systems, but this maybe what you intend anyway as you are going for a new board (the Zero2 W instead of the Zero W.)   I have installed the 64bit version of Bullseye on my Zero2 W and it runs just fine.  I use the raspberry pi imager to do my installs. (and its a very nice installer)

I have not yet hooked up my camera, but it seems that the initial recommendation to keep using Buster for the camera has all been sorted and Bullseye is now fine.  The Explaining Computers video, link below, does a very good job of explaining the current situation if you have not already perused it.

As for motioneye, I think this also works with bullseye, at least as far as I can see from the following link. 

https://github.com/motioneye-project/motioneye/wiki/Install-on-Raspbian-Bullseye

So, apart from installing Bullseye on a rpi Zero2 W, I have not actually hooked up a camera and used motioneye.  But I do have a good use for it and I have future plans to do so.  I'm hoping that the links given above will be good for @zander to get his teeth into it so that you and I get ride on his shirttails 😀 .  Go for it Ron.

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@byron Thanks Byron, I will definitly give it a try soon. Now for my stupid question of the day, what OS runs on the Pi PICO?

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@byron Thanks Byron. I'll try those procedures and report back to everyone.

 

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@cj Thanks, I took a bad fall the other day and am still going slow. Now to go see if I can buy any of the PiZeroW2

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@byron Thanks Byron, I will definitly give it a try soon. Now for my stupid question of the day, what OS runs on the Pi PICO?

Try fuzix

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/how-to-get-started-with-fuzix-on-raspberry-pi-pico/

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@will Never heard of that one. I thought it was the same as Arduino since the board is supported in the IDE but then I was reading the instructions for a UPS shield add on and it is totally confusing to me. I will check out your link too.

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@zander 

The PI PICO is not a computer, just a micro controller (RP2040) similar to the Arduino. It doesn't really support an OS, but Raspberry PI is providing fuzix as an alternative to just being a micro controller.

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@will Told you I was/are confused. It may be that a lot of old Unix clones find new life now. 

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@byron re

So, apart from installing Bullseye on a rpi Zero2 W, I have not actually hooked up a camera and used motioneye.  But I do have a good use for it and I have future plans to do so.  I'm hoping that the links given above will be good for @zander to get his teeth into it so that you and I get ride on his shirttails 😀 .  Go for it Ron.

The Zero2 W is out of stock so I have to wait, but I think I already have an original Zero with camera and MotionEyeOs so I should be able to do a new install on it to test the software. I have a couple Pi related things to look into so today will be a Pi day including a Pi PICO UPS.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by: @zander

I took a bad fall the other day and am still going slow. Now to go see if I can buy any of the PiZeroW2

Wishing you a speedy and good recovery from your fall, and be sure to take it easy, the likes of pi camera can wait until you are good and ready.

As you have found the rpi zero2, like all pi's, are currently all out of stock without much sign of many coming  back in stock.  Suppliers like Pimoroni or The Pi Hut occasionally have a limited stock that rapidly sells out.  Pimoroni had a small stock of rpi4 2GB boards a month ago but that lasted for just a few days.  

I see there are a number of UPS boards for the rpi pico from the suppliers mentioned above, but maybe, knowing your penchant for electronic DIY, you are rolling your own.

Posted by: @zander

I want to dump the ESP32CAM and move to a much better camera on a Pi, hopefully the Zero W or even a PICO.

 I also see a camera for the rpi pico, but that seems to be an ArduCam so probably of no use for you as being not much different to the ESP32CAM.  Here's a link in case its of interest.

Pour a nice long glass of Guinness, find a comfortable chair, and make sure you attend to you bumps and bruises.  Don't be a bad patient. 😠 

 


   
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@byron I had not seen that video. A 5MP camera is a significant step up from the 2MP I am using now so that is of interest and the newer 8MP can probably be substituted with little to no code changes. What is really intriguing is the PICO in the picture so I am going to go watch that video right after I finish this. 

WOW, they have a 16MP Auto Focus with RAW and no-IR for astro work, and a new 64MP auto focus, 10X digital zoom and add-on features like pan-tilt.

Bill covered the 16MP auto focus back in Feb this year.

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@byron I have NOT had a chance to test this yet, I obviously am getting slow. The phrase 'Motion Eye OS' says it all, it's an OS no need for BullsEye. There are two places to get MotionEyeOS, SourceForge which appears new and is what the picture below shows, the .img file is for a raspberry ready to flash. The code to build the image is the files in the dir. The github code is from 2017 IIRC and is much older. I could be 100% wrong about this but I think it's worth checking. Here is the link to Sourceforge last update 2021/09 and Github 2017/06

Image 2022 07 13 at 17.13

 

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@cj Thanks, I took a bad fall the other day and am still going slow. Now to go see if I can buy any of the PiZeroW2

Nothing a new toy can't mend! 😉


   
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