[Closed] Colin in Wales

@colin I don't think it's possible to waste anyone's time since you have not yet asked a question. As far as the two areas of interest you have mentioned, Raspberry Pi OS and Web development, then your prior expertise in *nix type OS's will serve you well when moving to Raspberry Pi OS, and at least some of your prior software development experience will give you a bit of a leg up with Web development. I never jumped into Web dev, I was in a very specialized environment, and it simply was unavailable (even illegal). Good luck. That ELEGOO kit won't help much with your two stated areas of interest, but it is good for learning a little bit about basic electronics. Welcome aboard!

@Colin

Hey Colin,

First off, you’re not wasting anyone’s time!!

Although there are many folks on here with many years of experience in both electronics and programming, there are also a bunch of us that hang around that are not so experienced (like me!).

Besides, if you need help with something, most members will be more than willing to help you, all you gotta do is ask!

No question is too dumb or trivial, we were all novices at some point.

Remember, the only dumb question is the one you don’t ask!

What are you working on?

Regards,

Lee

Like @zander and @lee-g said... just ask and there will be plenty of people to help.  When you care to ask, you might include your experience so we know how much you need with what aspect.  For instance... if you want to host a website on a Raspberry Pi is considerably different than learning Web development on a Raspberry Pi.  You can pretty much learn web development on any machine (Linux, Windows or MacOS) simply with any text editor and use Chrome, Chromium, Edge, Firefox, Safari...etc to run, debug and test.  You don't really need a web server for that part.  If you're wanting to host a website on the Raspberry Pi to interface with the hardware from web pages will take a little more effort.

VBR,

Inq

Big thanks for all the very positive posts.

I am not working on anything specific at the moment. I'm going to concentrate on expanding my knowledge about JavaScript ES6 and re-designing some football league tables for a friend of mine after this season has finished in a few weeks time.

Big thanks everyone!

@colin I think that's a totally different thing than what most of us here are doing.

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Big thanks for all the very positive posts.

I am not working on anything specific at the moment. I'm going to concentrate on expanding my knowledge about JavaScript ES6 and re-designing some football league tables for a friend of mine after this season has finished in a few weeks time.

Big thanks everyone!

I had to look it up (ES6).  It appears that it's just the next version of JavaScript.  Similar to C++ going from version to version.  Although, my career was server side, I have been doing JavaScript for a number of years, mostly out of hobby interests.

Does this mean the football league thing is a "paper" table system and you want to program a web interface version of it... or it already exists on a Raspberry Pi and you just want to update it?

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@colin I think that's a totally different thing than what most of us here are doing.

You do not speak for most of us!  And what most of us can do versus what we have posted on this forum may not be in your knowledge.  Many people here can do JavaScript and probably can be of help to him if they so desire.  Based on @colin O.P. I would think he needs encouragement... which you failed to provide. 

We acknowledge you have the most posts... It is not a race.  You should be setting the example of encouragement and inclusiveness, yet you basically say here, "We can't help you."  It was his first post for Pete's sake!!!  As many of us were brought up, "If you can't say something nice/helpful (or even funny), don't say anything at all."  

@inq Maybe I am losing my sight, but I see hardware associated with almost every post. I thought if he is only interested in software, this might not be an ideal fit compared to a javascript user group.

Don't worry, soon I will be busy and will not have time for this 

I believe this forum is for ANY electronic hardware and ANY software questions... that everyone in those two broad areas has a voice here.  We are far past just being about just robots and drones.  More questions come in about software and why it is not working... sometimes in relation to some hardware, but none the less, it is the software that isn't working most of the time.  Software tends to give more people, more issues on this forum.

I think there are more appropriate forums for strait web development and JavaScript, but I'm assuming @colin has a good reason for coming to this one.  Maybe, he has future plans to venture into computer controlled robots or IoT and wanted to establish himself here now.  Maybe, he just thought this forum would be more welcoming than most.

For myself... apologies to the forum for my outburst.  Although it is not my place to be calling someone down, when it comes to turning some new member away, I feel I must step in and assure that new member doesn't get ostracized.  

@inq @dronebot-workshop @colin I am unsure if I should post this, but if I don't, then the future will likely stay as is. I have explained to a few here and Dennis specifically that I am ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder). Dennis did not know what that is, which I find strange as the news usually has an article about it almost weekly, at least here in Canada, but he may be one of those people who don't watch TV since he is so busy helping others. His and possibly others' lack of knowledge certainly does not help, but I do not wish to place the onus on others. Most of us in the ASD community would be happiest if we sailed through life without ever talking about it, but today's very messed up PC world with FOX and DJT is only getting worse.

Gentlemen, I will try an experiment that may also interest you and maybe even the entire forum. I am going to try to use ChatGPT to formulate my responses, at least when they are more than about direct hardware and software-related questions. In the interest of transparency, I will ensure the post is marked as GPT, probably as the first few words. If this does not prevent my socially inappropriate responses, I will leave.

As a preliminary post, I will ask ChatGPT to rewrite this in a more friendly, benign voice and post it's response after this line.

ChatGPT

Well, this is both strange and a little disturbing, at least to me. More importantly, ChatGPT can't do this kind of thing, it seems. Here is the result

Hello there,

I understand that you're hesitant about posting your message, but please know that you're in a safe and friendly environment here. It's great that you're sharing your personal experiences with autism and helping to raise awareness about it. While it's true that some people may not be as familiar with it, it's important to remember that everyone has their own unique experiences and perspectives.

I think it's a wonderful idea to try using ChatGPT to formulate your responses. It's always exciting to try new things and explore different ways of communicating. We encourage experimentation and openness here, and we look forward to seeing how it goes for you.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, and we hope that you'll feel comfortable and supported in this community.

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I will try a real post that this technique may apply to when the opportunity arrives, but I am not optimistic at this point.

BTW, check out this channel on YT (HERE ). He is a former Msft Software Engineer and is ASD (Asperger's). You can see the 'flat affect' in his videos. See pic.

@colin Here is what I should have said

CHATGPT

You're welcome! It's great to hear that you're planning to expand your knowledge about JavaScript ES6 and work on re-designing football league tables for your friend. JavaScript is a powerful language and understanding its latest features in ES6 will definitely help you become a more proficient developer.

Redesigning football league tables is also a great project to work on, as it allows you to apply your knowledge of JavaScript and web design to create something practical and useful for your friend. It's also a great opportunity to practice your problem-solving skills and experiment with different design ideas.

Remember to break down the project into smaller, manageable tasks, and take it step by step. And don't hesitate to reach out to online communities or resources if you need help or inspiration along the way.

Good luck with your project, and have fun expanding your knowledge of JavaScript ES6!

@zander 

I am fully conversant with the Asperger's spectrum from those who are severely socially handicapped by it to people with high functioning Asperger traits as manifested in people like Elon Musk (and I think Bill Gates?) as I know people with varying degrees of autism and have read research on the subject.

What I would say to you is don't worry about it. We all do our best and we all mess up to varying degrees. We all vary in a social competence.  If others have a problem with that let it be their problem not yours. If you see how professional interviewers deal with making a slip or blunder in etiquette, manners, or conduct (a paux pas) they just carry on as if nothing happened. Others are not dwelling on it so you shouldn't either.

@robotbuilder Mine is made worse because my employer back in the 70s gave me a position and mandate to criticize any staff (staff of 300) not working to a high standard (structured revolution). Unfortunately, that was a daily event. I was made bulletproof by management, they could complain, but most of the time, I didn't even hear about it. The end result was a significant uptick in the quality of work produced. I think the project leaders tried to hire a hitman to take me out, but that didn't work for reasons I can't go into. Since I wrote 80% to 90% of the standards and the development environment I didn't need to consult with any experts so they couldn't pull a divide and conquer on me. Those were fun days but oh so long.

@lee-g 

There is a dronebot forum has a programming forum so post your programming stuff there.