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mr.meeseeks
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what is it even used for? other than windows applications.

asp.net cant compete with xenforo and carrd

vb.net and c# lose to python

and xamarin is nothing compered to android studio and xcode

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Hi @mr-meeseeks,

  Certainly not my specialist subject, but your question is so vague, I am wondering if you are discussing Visual Studio (the IDE) or Visual Studio Code (the editor +).

As for any tool, it is designed for a specific job ... a hammer maybe useful for inserting nails but less useful for tightening screws. Similarly with software tools.

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Although they have many obvious overlaps between the tools I listed above, they are definitely not the same thing.

Visual Studio is an IDE specially designed for developing Windows apps, etc.

Visual Studio Code is an editor which can be 'expanded' by any number of 'add-ins' to 'customise' it to the user's needs, which includes a wide range of programming languages, hardware platforms and so on.

There are many alternative tools to consider, some of which may be better suited to your needs, but I am sure there are a vast number of programmers, etc. throughout the world, who successfully use one or both of these tools to good effect.

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@mr-meeseeks It is also used for Arduino and Espressif and maybe more, I can't say as I haven't used those boards.

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Personally, I think he's just yanking our chain.  And probably doesn't have any real-world experience with what he's complaining about.  I've used every Microsoft environment/language from the 1980's on... including every version of Visual Studio ever made in the Enterprise / Ultimate versions.  Although pretty new to using Visual Studio Code, most of it feels about the same.  He sounds more like a salesman trying to convince us of some product (see his other posts).

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mr.meeseeks
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@inq 

well the reason I ask is because I somewhat consider translating my project to vb.net and C#

but it could be a waste of time if these programming languages are underuse.

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Posted by: @mr-meeseeks

@inq 

well the reason I ask is because I somewhat consider translating my project to vb.net and C#

but it could be a waste of time if these programming languages are underuse.

Well... I actually prefer C#.NET when working on a real PC application.  However, considering that neither vb.net nor C#.net are used on microprocessors (and never likely to be) which is the main focus of this forum - Arduino/MPU's, Drones and Robots, I'd have to ask you if you are on the correct forum for your thoughts and solicitations?  The advice  you get here might not be pertinent to your goals.  Yes, we do have off-shoots like 3D Printers, programming on desktops, but it is way down in single digits.  

 

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@inq Exactly! His first few posts sounded like he was trying to sell something. His unprofessional language, approach, and demeanour were all red flags to me, but given my reputation, I hesitated to ask Bill to keep an eye on him. I doubt we will see much of him if nobody buys whatever it is he is selling.

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Posted by: @zander

@inq Exactly! His first few posts sounded like he was trying to sell something. His unprofessional language, approach, and demeanour were all red flags to me, but given my reputation, I hesitated to ask Bill to keep an eye on him. I doubt we will see much of him if nobody buys whatever it is he is selling.

Your reputation is solid!  You know I respect you even if I've given you grief in the past when you come down hard on a student.  IMO, that is OK.  Kids are the future... they need as much encouragement as I(we) can give them!  I see that we (forum and us members) are as much of a reference as any textbook.  I don't know how many Google searches I do (most all since search doesn't work here on the forum) that end up leading me to our forum.  I have to smile when I see the top hundred hits are what Bill has given us!  I try not to give those students a solution, but what if their class mates are less upfront (and I believe I've seen that happen a time or two) and get us to give them the answer under secretive conditions... who benefited and who was disappointed?

Anyway... I'm a little more pull the trigger on censorship when it comes to solicitation for a product.  IMO... ONLY Bill has that right to show purchasable product.  He has built a solid reputation with us (and the world at large) that he gives the facts and advice that we can count on... and substantiate with demonstrable facts.  

All mr-meeseeks posts are either adversarial or soliciting.  I don't see any genuine interest in asking this forum for help/advice for solving a Arduino/Robot/Drone question.  I mean... REALLY... do we really care about Where's Waldo?

 

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@zander 

you don't scare me. I have my own forum, come register so I can permaban you

https://jizz.is/

oh you gonna cry to your friend bill to ban me, pfft, like a give a fudge

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@mr-meeseeks 

Ron (@zander) has several thousands of posts here and has helped dozens of people with various counsel and advice, so he's a known quantity with an existing reputation and level of respect.

You are still an unknown, so we have to judge you by the quality of the things you post and by the types of questions you ask and how you ask them. That's a very small set so far that we have available for us to judge you as a contributor or consumer.

I don't know Ron very well, but I'm pretty sure that he's not going to be frightened by someone who apparently hasn't even mastered the use of capital letters and punctuation threatening to permanently ban him from a forum that he's unlikely to join.

Jizz(.is), is that the best name you could come up with ?  Perhaps you're not fully comfortable with the English language, but that alone seems to set you apart from the people here who are mainly interested in electronics and related subjects.

We see what you show us.

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@will 

yeah well I'm about the full picture. this means electronics and AI. Arduino and Pi or droidrino

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Hi @inq et al,

RE: Personally, I think he's just yanking our chain. ... etc.

I suspected that too from the start, and that was before I saw the other thread from the same source.

I'll borrow a couple of lines from Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_someone_enough_rope), to point out one of the possible outcomes ...

Give someone enough rope, and they will hang themselves is a proverb or idiomatic expression meaning that given the opportunity, people will incriminate themselves.

Best wishes to All, Dave


   
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