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(@ret_attorney)
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Review new circuit simulator CrumbSimulator

Looks like greatest thing since sliced bread

 


   
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Wow - this looks awesome! Thank you so much for pointing it out.

I was actually thinking of doing an article/video about circuit simulators, as there are a few around for the Arduino and ESP32.  But I hadn't seen Crumb Simulator, it certainly is something I'll need to take a closer look at.

Great suggestion!

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Bill

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Just started playing around with it, however it still seems to be in the early stages of development.  Would also be nice to see a Linux client, or perhaps an online client.  As far as I can tell it has a pretty limited set of components.

Personally I think the biggest issue is that it isn't free, and it also seems that you would have to pay individually for the iOS, Android and desktop clients, instead of getting all three for the same price. I may be wrong about that, but I'm not the only one confused by it as it's also an unanswered question in their forum.

I really think they should put out a "limited use" version free, to get people to try it. Right now the only way to test it out is to pay for it. I have no problem doing that, of course, but I suspect that isn't true for everyone.  But charging for a product while it is still in its infancy isn't the best strategy IMHO.

I may still give it a test, not sure which client I would grab, probably the Android one as it's a bit unclear how you get the Windows or Mac ones, as there is only a link to Steam, which is kind of odd.

Posted by: @ret_attorney

Looks like greatest thing since sliced bread

Have you used it yourself? Would be interested to get an opinion, or perhaps see a video.

Again, thanks for pointing it out.

😎

Bill

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@dronebot-workshop If you do not do a review, can you list the others?

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Having no clue and seeing no description or other sepecifications about "What in the world is a Crumb Circuit Simulator (CCS)" I had to just jump in and see what I could get from you folks to satisfy my curiosity.  So, "Please Tell Me!"

 

In the mean time I went to my favorite resource, ChatGPT 3.5, to get clues about this CCS thingie.  To my surprise, the response was that it had no information on the subject since its last official update.  Not willing to spend my precious tokens in the newer LLM's to get something on this illusive subject, I did the next worse thing!  I poked the description into the FF address line and tapped RETURN.  For once I actually got something useful.  Now if I can only remember how to include a link?

CRUMB Circuit Simulator Free Download:  FreeDnLd  Did not try it since I'm not sure what it is supposed to accomplish though it looked rather interesting (don't have time to be the test dummy on this one)

 

Then:  Introduction to the Desktop Version of the 3D CRUMB Breadboard Circuit Simulator at BB 3d CCS

 

So, can someone enlighten me on what I just found and why I really need to use it?  Thank you in advance.

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@darup It's a breadboard simulator. You don't need it, but some folks use it especially if they don't have all the parts or they are just curious about how a certain circuit works. If you are at all interested, download one (there are several besides this one) and play with it to see if it helps you.

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Posted by: @darup

So, can someone enlighten me on what I just found and why I really need to use it?

In theory, it should allow you to "breadboard" a project and "run" it virtually, which is great if (a) you don't have the parts or (b) you don't have the space to work on a project (like in an airplane or bus or office) or (c) if you project needs a scope, and you don't own one.

I probably wouldn't use one, but I do have a lot of components on hand and plenty of workspace and test equipment. But not everyone has.

A good simulator can be an educational or development tool. Having said that, I have yet to find a "good" one that isn't prohibitively expensive. This one is not it, at least it wasn't when I examined it a few months ago.

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Bill

 

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Thanks for the comment/explanation.  BTW, ChatGP4 did not have much to say about Crumb Circuit Simulation

 

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@darup I see you still don't know how to use the Reply button.

Regarding ChatGPT, that isn't surprising since if the data wasn't loaded, it would know nothing. A lot of people are surprised that it isn't hooked up to the internet (rumours say it may be soon, though. I doubt it will be quick enough)

Since recent results are trending to the 70% WRONG level, I would be cautious of any results.

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@zander

Posted by: @zander

@darup I see you still don't know how to use the Reply button.

Yep, that is true.  From my recollection, and my thinking process, the "reply" was not, has not, and, "still NOT" really all that obvious unless one follows a strict training course in learning all the buttons, icons, etc.

So, how are you today?

Oh, did I finally get it right? (the reply)

BTW, I'll probably forget again, "soon!"

 

 

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@darup Maybe this picture will help, bottom right.

Screenshot 2023 08 25 at 13.24.01

First computer 1959. Retired from my own computer company 2004.
Hardware - Expert in 1401, and 360, fairly knowledge in PC plus numerous MPU's and MCU's
Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
Sure you can learn to be a programmer, it will take the same amount of time for me to learn to be a Doctor.


   
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