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When most people here talk about robotics, they never really define what kind of robot they would like to build, how and why, and for what purpose.

What kind of robot I would like to build and what kind of robot I can afford to build are two different topics!

There should (IMO) be a dedicated forum (Bill?), for this topic (for example: common robotic algorithms), because it is a quite an advanced topic for advanced users to be sure 🙂

 

That comes under the forum section, Other Robot Projects, ROS, AI-Artificial Intelligence.

You can start at a not so advanced position. A simple light seeking robot shows autonomous goal seeking behaviour. I see "robotics" as the mechanics of the machine as opposed to the control system (brain) that gives that machine autonomous goal seeking behaviors.

There have been some advances in the mechanics of autonomous machines with essentially spinal reflex level control such as the Honda robot or the walking dog curtesy of Boston Dynamics Robots. Some of the videos you see of apparent high level complex behaviors in robots are in fact controlled by humans.

The other fakes are androids which are essentially animatronic machines with a chat bot AI. These machines are not aware or understanding of anything as they stare out into the world with dead eyes.

Robot vacuum cleaning machines are an example of real robots with autonomous goal seeking behaviours.

Human intelligence and how the brain works has interested me ever since High School and over the decades I have collected and read books explaining what we now know about real brains from insects to humans.

 


   
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I guess for me a human-robot interface is a simple keyboard to send it commands in a human language format. Actually today you would use a smart phone as they do with the robotic vacuum cleaning robots. Ideally you just talk to the machine and it talks back, this is well within the reach of the hobby level robot.

With robot to robot interfaces relevant to your interest in multiple interacting robots there are faster ways than speech to communicate such as I suggested using light.

Light is used in the animal kingdom for communications. From the fire fly signal for a mate to the skin displays of an octopus. Animals also use sign language to signal other animals. I love watching all those nature films.

I find your efforts and thoughts on the subject interesting to read about. It is one thing to talk about robots and another to actually build them.

 


   
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@frogandtoad 

f@g - When most people here talk about robotics, they never really define what kind of robot they would like to build, how and why, and for what purpose.

What kind of robot I would like to build and what kind of robot I can afford to build are two different topics!

My general comment was just that, and never referred to or questioned you and/or your personal position on the matter... so not sure why you say that?

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There should (IMO) be a dedicated forum (Bill?), for this topic (for example: common robotic algorithms), because it is a quite an advanced topic for advanced users to be sure 🙂

That comes under the forum section, Other Robot Projects, ROS, AI-Artificial Intelligence.

Fair enough, and thanks for pointing that out!  I'll assume then, that you'll only post responses to such a forum questions in that section, and if it doesn't exist, you will remain silent?


   
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Love the vocals on your robot... can you please advise which library you used?

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Not sure what to make of your responses.  I seem to have offended you in some way. Apologies.

 

 


   
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@frogandtoad 

Not sure what to make of your responses.  I seem to have offended you in some way. Apologies.

Sorry... my comment was very general and targeted towards the wider community when discussing such topics, without qualifying such aspects I mentioned - I thought your first response to me was "you" assuming that I was talking about you specifically, of which I was not, or never intended for it to come across that way.

I also took your second comment to mean that my post was inappropriate in this thread, hence my response to that.

Based on your response to my last comments, I acknowledge that I may have misunderstood your responses to me, and if that is so, then I fully apologies to you and the forum.


   
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Posted by: @frogandtoad

Love the vocals on your robot... can you please advise which library you used?

Cheers

Are you planning to make a singing bumper?

 

Tom

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To really foul up, use a computer.


   
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Posted by: @thrandell

Are you planning to make a singing bumper?

How about a horn that screams "Get out of my way" 🙂

Anything seems possible when you don't know what you're talking about.


   
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Love the vocals on your robot... can you please advise which library you used?

Cheers

Are you planning to make a singing bumper?

 

Tom

Hehe, I actually love singing in my spare time, but nooop... I just like the robot voice you used, as it kind of reminds me of a more modern HAL!

Unless it's a secret, which library did you use? 🙂


   
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@frogandtoad Just an interesting side note, I left IBM (that's HAL + 1) to work for Hitachi America Limited selling the model 9000 which was the most powerful computer at the time.

First computer 1959. Retired from my own computer company 2004.
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Sure you can learn to be a programmer, it will take the same amount of time for me to learn to be a Doctor.


   
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@frogandtoad Just an interesting side note, I left IBM (that's HAL + 1) to work for Hitachi America Limited selling the model 9000 which was the most powerful computer at the time.

Awesome stuff, that would have been a fantastic experience!

I liaised with IBM employees for the last 15 years in the financial industry, troubleshooting networking infrastructure, and overnight scheduling using the Control-M scheduler.

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@frogandtoad It was different, but competing against IBM was almost impossible. I was only there for a couple years and then moved on. That was early 80's, IBM is a very different company now. I finished up working with Hardware Fault Tolerant computers in the markets segment, stocks etc. Interesting software challenges, everything had to be super fast and converting all kinds of data formats to one modern format was many nights spent poring over assembler output. My system ended up being the fastest but on the day of the big crash 87 nobody could keep up. We did recover first though. One exchange insisted we show transactions in 1/2 of a 64th, NOT 1/128th, but it had to be 0.5 64ths. Now that was weird, and with only a few days lead time.

First computer 1959. Retired from my own computer company 2004.
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Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
Sure you can learn to be a programmer, it will take the same amount of time for me to learn to be a Doctor.


   
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@frogandtoad It was different, but competing against IBM was almost impossible. I was only there for a couple years and then moved on. That was early 80's, IBM is a very different company now. I finished up working with Hardware Fault Tolerant computers in the markets segment, stocks etc. Interesting software challenges, everything had to be super fast and converting all kinds of data formats to one modern format was many nights spent poring over assembler output. My system ended up being the fastest but on the day of the big crash 87 nobody could keep up. We did recover first though. One exchange insisted we show transactions in 1/2 of a 64th, NOT 1/128th, but it had to be 0.5 64ths. Now that was weird, and with only a few days lead time.

Hehe, not sure those calculations make a whole lot of sense to me, but I understand what may have been frustrating for you and others!

Cheers


   
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@frogandtoad The reason for the 1/2 64ths is tradition (after all Wall street at least back then was still using pirate currency, pieces of 8. Sometimes called a spanish dollar but the saying came from the Brits and made its way onto the trading floors. I haven't remained current, but last I looked Wall street was still old school, the Canadians and Australians used the same feed software and it was strictly decimal. MUCH easier to process.

First computer 1959. Retired from my own computer company 2004.
Hardware - Expert in 1401, and 360, fairly knowledge in PC plus numerous MPU's and MCU's
Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
Sure you can learn to be a programmer, it will take the same amount of time for me to learn to be a Doctor.


   
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