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Josiah
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Hi, I just got two Raspberry pi zero 2 Ws and when I try to update them they freeze at "Reading Changelogs approx 40%". Has anyone had this problem or have any ideas how to fix it?

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@josiah430 How long have you let it sit there?

I assume you did a 'sudo apt update' followed by 'sudo apt upgrade'

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@josiah43 I did an update/upgrade a few hours ago on my Pi5 and it was fine. Unless they broke the distro in between it makes no sense.

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Josiah
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@zander I let it sit for about 6 hours.

I used the command 'sudo apt full-upgrade' instead of 'sudo apt upgrade' does that make a difference?


   
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@josiah430 OH YES.

Do a ctrl-C to stop the process then do a 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade'. 

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@josiah430 I just noticed, they are new boards and you just installed the OS and this is your first update?

If yes to all that, start over and just do update and upgrade to be absolutly safe.

After that use the man command in terminal to read the documentation

At terminal prompt man apt

scroll 1 line at a time with up/down arrows or mouse wheel.

scroll 1 page with space bar

scroll 1 line with enter

I normally only use update and upgrade, at 82 I don't remember so good but if I need help 'man apt' is there.

Be very sure of the repercussions of anything but update and upgrade.

I have a handful of those boards, they will be fitted with cameras for game cameras.

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My personal scorecard is now 1 PC hardware fix (circa 1982), 1 open source fix (at age 82), and 2 zero day bugs in a major OS.


   
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Josiah
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@zander ctrl-C does not do anything because it is totally frozen.


   
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@josiah430 Did you burn (with either Balena etcher, or Rpi-imager) with a fresh download of the OS (which one BTW)

How big a card and how fast.

I would try it here, but I have a new PC coming today to set up then repurpose an old one to a multi-distro linux workstation.

Without more info I can't begin to figure it out other than what I already said.

Are you running headless? Do you know how to do that.

Sorry, not enough info.

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Josiah
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@zander I used the Rpi imager. I have tried both the 32 bit os and the 64 bit os with the same result.

I have tried two 64 gb class ten sd cards and one 128 gb class ten sd card. 

I have tried using it in both headless mode and using a display. 

I am also using the official Rpi power supply.

  Does that help?


   
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@josiah430 It does, but the mystery only deepens. Give me a few minutes and I will download the OS (lite) and try an update. I will be using a Pi Zero 2.

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@zander Sorry I forgot to mention I did try the lite os and and was able to update it. But I can barely open a chrome on the other os's it would freeze when I even clicked on chrome.


   
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@josiah430 Are you now changing the problem? I thought it was an apt upgrade issue.

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Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
My personal scorecard is now 1 PC hardware fix (circa 1982), 1 open source fix (at age 82), and 2 zero day bugs in a major OS.


   
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Josiah
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@zander Sorry for not explaining well it is not an apt upgrade issue. No matter how I try to update it it freezes or if I try to open chrome it freezes(when I am using the 32 bit os or the 64 bit os).


   
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@josiah430 OK, NOW I understand. I can't connect to mine, not sure why but probably because I have so much WiFi plus ether 6e that I have screwed up. I did it twice, but still can't find the hostname.

After you burn the TF card and boot for the first time, can you connect with VNC or similar? Then can you see your desktop? Open terminal and do an ls and lsblk?

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Hardware - Expert in 1401, and 360, fairly knowledge in PC plus numerous MPU's and MCU's
Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
My personal scorecard is now 1 PC hardware fix (circa 1982), 1 open source fix (at age 82), and 2 zero day bugs in a major OS.


   
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Ron
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@josiah430 Well you are doing better than me, I can't connect at all. No idea why.

First computer 1959. Retired from my own computer company 2004.
Hardware - Expert in 1401, and 360, fairly knowledge in PC plus numerous MPU's and MCU's
Major Languages - Machine language, 360 Macro Assembler, Intel Assembler, PL/I and PL1, Pascal, Basic, C plus numerous job control and scripting languages.
My personal scorecard is now 1 PC hardware fix (circa 1982), 1 open source fix (at age 82), and 2 zero day bugs in a major OS.


   
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