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Spyder
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I know Bill has been dealing with this, which is why he occasionally needs some time, and so do I right now, or, more right now...

I was originally building robots cuz I wanted to build them. I wanted friends that... wouldn't die on me

I'm 64 years old now, and I face people leaving me every day, and even if I can't change what's gonna happen, maybe I can at least help

Mom broke her ankle back in December, and I wasn't able to keep her from wandering around at 3 AM with a broken ankle, so I had no choice but to send her to rehab for 4 weeks. and I had already set up cameras in the house for security, so had an idea about using the security cams for safety cams... Can the cameras notice if she falls ?

Again, more programs align... I have quite a few projects going... I wasn't ready to announce any of them

I have an AI (there's a difference between agent and... other)

Long story... I got interrupted from building my boat to save my mother

Does any of this make sense ?

Mom spent Christmas and her birthday in rehab



   
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huckOhio
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@spyder

As far as I am concerned you made the right call taking care of your mom!!!  I am 67, and in Sept 2025 my mom fell and was admitted into the hospital.  They found no broken bones but delayed moving her to rehab.  By the time she got to rehab she lost so much strength she couldn't walk anymore.  She was 99 at the time and didn't have the energy.  I am thankful that we were able to celebrate her 100th birthday, but she eventually was moved into hospice and passed in early Oct 2025.   Be thankful for the time with your mom....the boat can wait.



   
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Spyder
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@huckohio 

I get it. I got hit by a car last October, and fractured 5 vertebrae, so wasn't able to exercise, and I'm really feeling the loss of muscle, so I can only imagine what I'll be like in 30 years (if I live that long)

Mom was home from rehab for TWO days after a broken ankle, and my SIL sent a group photo (my brother bought the house right next door) of my 91 year old Mom shoveling the driveway, and I'm thinking, "The testosterone is strong in this one"

Shoveling the driveway... cuz she was bored

There wasn't even any snow there

Oh, and get this, she poured some salt on the path to the mailbox...

And didn't check the mail (which pissed me off cuz I needed those Raspberries)

Which leads me to... holy sh@t...

I used to build robots cuz it was fun. I even started what I thought of as an AI using a Radio Shack Color Computer...

Time passes...

LONG story... So I had the 6 camera motioneye thing set up (good thing too, cuz that was how I found her on the floor dragging herself to the stairs after she fell and broke her ankle)

So I got some new (pi) cameras, and some other "toys", and then I got the idea...

What if I use one of the AIs to monitor the camera streams, and watch for a person falling down ?

I built an AI in a raspberry pi and I have the accelerator thingy, so this should be doable



   
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robotBuilder
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@spyder 

Falling is a common and often fatal outcome for old people. A wearable electronic radio device using an accelerometer and gyroscope sensor to detect a fall is a possible solution? My Mother and later Father in law had a pendant around their necks which rang carers when they pushed a button.

But these devices including visual monitoring don't prevent a fall only report it. I always imagined wearing a light weight helmet and air bag like device around the hip. A broken hip is usually the end for an old person. The hip shatters into pieces in old bones instead of just breaking and the blood supply cannot be restored to the bone pieces.

 

 



   
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Spyder
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@robotbuilder

Oh this is so funny. Mom is an immigrant from a country that doesn't even exist anymore

We bought her a watch, which she won't wear, and a pendant that she also won't wear, which is why I made the pi zero cams and the motioneye thing, which is what I'm working on right now...

Long story...

I removed the computers from the original K9, made new stuff, wrote some AI things, and did some other kewl shit, and am... still working on it

I'll let ya know



   
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robotBuilder
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@spyder 

As I wrote above these devices, including visual monitoring, don't prevent a fall only report it.

That is like shutting the door after the horse has bolted.

I guess she wouldn't wear protector garments to significantly reduce hip fracture risk during a fall either.

Other steps might be balance training, home safety changes (like hand rails) and medications that might make it harder to balance (low blood pressure for example).

 



   
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Spyder
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The current goal is to program my ai to watch the cameras, and look for a fall. 

I figure, since she won't wear the watch or pendant, at least there's some eyes on her

Saying that "the ai works" doesn't exactly explain what it does, or, CAN do

I've got it functioning 100% offline (yay!)

I've got it answering questions it isn't supposed to (ex: how do you make gunpowder?)

Still working on it texting me, (which I THINK I can do via google voice and web-ui, which are both working)

But I can't seem to get the ai-accelerator properly installed due to the fact that I can't find the sdk, AND the files I did find don't contain the "hailortcli" that I absolutely need

If anybody can figure this out, I'd be really appreciative. I'm looking in here, and yes, you need an account, but, it's free...

https://hailo.ai/developer-zone/software-downloads/?product=ai_accelerators&device=hailo_10h



   
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Spyder
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Update:

Got it ! I had to build it from hidden files, but I got the hailort going, and I learned that the accelerator isn't for speech (which sucks), so it won't make it have better conversations, which is what I wanted, on the other hand, it WAS designed to speed up the visual data, so, it WILL help watching and understanding "fall" episodes (also comes in handy in having the robot wander around the house and not bump into things)

Anybody who wants to follow this project, the next part is using vs code to install the "claude code" extension, and setup the ssh extension to connect to your Pi, then the vs code can create the program, and then use ssh to connect to your remote and actually send the program

The web-ui can then allow the computer to actually control your mouse and kb (which is cool, but kinda spooky, I mean, what if it decides to buy something you didn't think about? Or agree to ? Or even know about ?)

I'm still working on the software, and I'm not ready to install the upgraded computers into K9, but the software is fascinating

(FYI: I'm testing it sandboxed. And you should too, if you try it... Think about it...

You just built a computer smarter than you, and gave it control over your computer and checkbook... That should work out well)

Sandbox sounds like a good idea

Quite the fascinating project tho

I keep running into snags programming it (like, errors and shit), and the AI tells me what to do to fix it, and I just click "send"

Obviously, it wouild probably work faster if I opened the sandbox, and gave it access to the internet, but, that just doesn't seem like a great idea until I've got a handle on this thing

Oh, and if I didn't say it, I'm running it on a 16g pi5 on trixie (admittedly, using trixie made it more complicated, but I've got ROS and a few other things to deal with, so, trixie wins)

The basic plan here is to basically clone the setup for each bot, and have them all answer to Athena, and Athena sorta becomes an AEGIS SYSTEM (kinda like JARVIS)... each camera connected to my LAN becomes a sensor input for Athena...

And, if you want to know who Athena is, her description is right here...

https://spyder19.github.io/shimmerwake-site/

The entire book is there. Family friendly. No swearing, No sex. Just fun

Oh, yea, I'm building it



   
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