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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
                        <link>https://forum.dronebotworkshop.com/help-wanted/stepper-motor-and-driver/paged/3/#post-48175</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@bbutcher85 @huckohio Pololu is a good resource.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@bbutcher85 @<span>huckohio</span> Pololu is a good resource.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://forum.dronebotworkshop.com/help-wanted/">Help Wanted</category>                        <dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This motor should work fine if you gear it so the motor torque is adequate for the job. Timing belts and pulleys or a lead screw are good options. Use a voltage near the limit of the A4988 (...]]></description>
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<p>While it's in the high 90s outside I though I would look at replacing the automatic door on the chicken coop.  I watched Bill's video's on stepper motors and drivers and I think I picked out units that would work.  I would like confirmation that I selected a proper stepper motor (i have no specs on door weight, travel length, etc.).  This is my first time working with a stepper motor.</p>
<p>The vision would be to integrate this with the existing ESP32-S3 system already in the coop.  The ESP32-S3 would talk to the A4988 H-Bridge motor driver.  </p>
<p>For the stepper I've selected a Nema 17 Stepper Motor 42-34 3D Printer Motor DC 1A-3.4V 2 Phase 4 Wires 1.8 Degrees (<a title="Stepper Motor" href="https://www.amazon.com/iMetrx-Stepper-17HS4401-Printer-1-8%C2%B10-09/dp/B092QXLJHT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2V860M22EINH2&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Qa3CQUjLdgK6uEHpJhtsnIMERdaevPwILRk4kxcJ4xM2ljzrXZv5m0cnMClEkdpiZqi96QqHdLh38n3-gdW_qUqQgXgKV60ld65YF2hlBUAcLusInQr19BsNo1eCqwUgIepNSEyjYt7jYRwBoi3xMdzHGLd-3XnNGWPlDbN-nno_iroJHBajOeZtrIoFg086y01_Lnz0kJz8VaP1gjtp-JW3pMqabDVRAmmX3ayxc7s.kTUbhH-t55kNLa5oSOOi7CId72JTChD5TIfzcSs4z4E&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=nema17%2Bstepper&amp;qid=1718727629&amp;sprefix=nema1%2Caps%2C107&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&amp;th=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stepper Motor</a>).</p>
<p>Since there are so many variations of the Nema17 I would confirmation this unit would work or maybe a suggestion on a better option.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<p>This motor should work fine if you gear it so the motor torque is adequate for the job. Timing belts and pulleys or a lead screw are good options. Use a voltage near the limit of the A4988 (35V) to get the highest RPM. Note that the 3.4 volt motor voltage is the minimum voltage that will produce 1A in the motor. There are other stepper drivers available that might be easier to select the desired 1A motor current. It appears the A4988 uses a sense resistor to detect motor current while some others use switch settings to determine current. Limit switches are also a good idea in case the motor misses a few steps and loses track of where the closed and open positions are. I would use the closed limit switch to reset a home position and input the number of steps you think are required to open the door. Or just run the motor until it hits the open limit switch. As others have said, a "chicken sensor" of some type would be a good idea to stop motion, much like those used on garage doors.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
                        <link>https://forum.dronebotworkshop.com/help-wanted/stepper-motor-and-driver/paged/3/#post-48163</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@huckohio Those are indeed very handy units, if you are not going to do the math, get the ubit with the biggest battery (5200mAh) and see if it works, if not buy a second and keep adding unt...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@huckohio Those are indeed very handy units, if you are not going to do the math, get the ubit with the biggest battery (5200mAh) and see if it works, if not buy a second and keep adding until you have enough power. Keep them all the same, I would go with the 5W (2nd link) and wire the outputs in parallel. </p>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 21:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@zander 

Ron, Take a deep breath and count to ten before you read this question... &#x1f600;  
 
Couldn&#039;t I just buy one of these versus doing all those calculations (Link or Link)?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zander </p>
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<p>What you need to do is some calculations. Use WATTS, that way you don;t need to switch back and forth. Use 4 hrs at some percentage for total power from those two panels. I NEVER got 1,080Watts, unless you spend power to constantly align them NS daily, and EW by the minute.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Ron, Take a deep breath and count to ten before you read this question... &#x1f600;  </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Couldn't I just buy one of these versus doing all those calculations (<a title="Link" href="https://www.amazon.com/Camojojo-Foldable-Waterproof-Rechargeable-Accessory/dp/B0B9BN44HS/ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_d_2_t_1?pd_rd_w=xpRlL&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.568f3b6b-5aad-4bfd-98ee-d827f03151e4&amp;pf_rd_p=568f3b6b-5aad-4bfd-98ee-d827f03151e4&amp;pf_rd_r=MSQEC9Z52GKFK17RMABV&amp;pd_rd_wg=xvWp1&amp;pd_rd_r=264d6970-5a04-47f7-baaf-ec46b2ae7b56&amp;pd_rd_i=B0B9BN44HS" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a> or <a title="Link" href="https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Rechargeable-Accessories-Waterproof-Continuous/dp/B0B65RSZ1X/ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_d_2_t_2?pd_rd_w=VfFuj&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.568f3b6b-5aad-4bfd-98ee-d827f03151e4&amp;pf_rd_p=568f3b6b-5aad-4bfd-98ee-d827f03151e4&amp;pf_rd_r=9VXFJ2D47VF9THE4Y7W7&amp;pd_rd_wg=XOsj2&amp;pd_rd_r=9e1f09a4-860c-492c-afde-9f2c6f90fd73&amp;pd_rd_i=B0B65RSZ1X&amp;th=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a>)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi @huckohio,
  Whilst stepper motors quote a small voltage, say 4V, they are rarely connected to such a low voltage. The problem is that as soon as they start to move, they generate a back...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi @huckohio,</p>
<p>  Whilst stepper motors quote a small voltage, say 4V, they are rarely connected to such a low voltage. The problem is that as soon as they start to move, they generate a back voltage that opposes the supply voltage. It is the job of the driver to control the current going into the motor. Perhaps the first issue will be the driver board's voltage requirements.</p>
<p>Sorry, there are always complications and problems!</p>
<p>Best wishes, Dave</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 18:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@huckohio I built a 7,200wH battery bank, 1,080W solar panels (57V 20A) so I am familiar.
What you need to do is some calcuations. Use WATTS, that way you don;t need to switch back and fort...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@huckohio I built a 7,200wH battery bank, 1,080W solar panels (57V 20A) so I am familiar.</p>
<p>What you need to do is some calcuations. Use WATTS, that way you don;t need to switch back and forth. Use 4 hrs at some percentage for total power from those two panels. I NEVER got 1,080Watts, unless you spend power to constantlyaligh them NS daily, and EW by the minute. Where I live the sun rises and sets in the NORTH. I used to watch the sunset from my couch in my lakeside home that was built on the compass, the lakesdie windows were facing due north. I have an excellent web site that will demonstrate the concept, it is at <a href="https://www.suncalc.org/#/49.3353,-124.4692,19/2017.09.16/13:12/5/2" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.suncalc.org/#/49.3353,-124.4692,19/2017.09.16/13:12/5/2</a></p>
<p>Myhunch is those two panels together wil harvest. Even if they are 100% efficient, the experts tell me 4 hrs a day is the number they use but the following site will tell you exactly <a href="https://pvwatts.nrel.gov" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://pvwatts.nrel.gov</a>. If you have questions about any of the information you need to enter, just post or PM me.</p>
<p>So using rough calcs, 60WH is 12AH at 5V. If usage is average over 24 hrs, that is 500mA each hour but if you have 12 hrs of inactivity, then you have a power budget of 1A per hour. Check the specs of the stepper. Will you be raising and closing it multiple times, my friends with chickens only do that once a day. so 500mA up and 500mA down. Sounds doable, but if noty just scale up the solar panels.</p>
<p>Once that is done, now you have to add multipliers for clouds and rain. That means if those two are ok, then buy 3 more sets.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@zander
BTW, this discussion is being printed and placed in a file folder for this project.  Thanks again.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zander</p>
<p>BTW, this discussion is being printed and placed in a file folder for this project.  Thanks again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@zander

I&#039;ll look into it.  I like the idea of using this as the edge guides.

LOL, no need to stop.  I really appreciate all the advice/recommendations.  
Thinking about the requireme...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zander</p>
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<p>They and many others sell UHMW plastic</p>
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<p>I'll look into it.  I like the idea of using this as the edge guides.</p>
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<p>Ok, I promise to stop now.</p>
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<p>LOL, no need to stop.  I really appreciate all the advice/recommendations.  </p>
<p>Thinking about the requirements for this project I realized I forgot one important capability - solar powered.  I need to check the voltage range of the stepper motor.  I currently have two solar panels.  One is from Waveshare  (6V 5W) and the other is a 5V 2A solar panel.  I also have a Waveshare Solar Power Management Module with onboard batter charging.  Not sure if I need to get smaller stepper motors like those that come in the Arduino kits.</p>
<p>Mike</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@zander Ron, My wife&#039;s uncle passed out while driving 80mph on the expressway.  Luckily his wife was able to steer the car and get him to come back to his senses.  He received a pace maker a...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zander Ron, My wife's uncle passed out while driving 80mph on the expressway.  Luckily his wife was able to steer the car and get him to come back to his senses.  He received a pace maker a couple weeks later and it has been a significant change.  More energy, better focus, etc.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Stepper Motor and Driver</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2024 14:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@huckohio Here is a link to my favourite tools/hardware store Lee Valley. They and many others sell UHMW plastic. You can work it with woodworking tools and it is super slippery. This would ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@huckohio Here is a link to my favourite tools/hardware store Lee Valley. They and many others sell UHMW plastic. You can work it with woodworking tools and it is super slippery. This would make an ideal chicken coop door track. Just rip a piece say 1" wide, then route a ~3/8" slot down the middle for the door to slide in. It's a simple matter to then cut out a part of the track to place the magnetic reed switch and a second small but robust limit switch (may be overkill). If you are in the US, order on-line at LV or google UHMW to locate local or other on-line sources. It just occurred to me, the magnetic switch and probably the emergency limit switch could be mounted higher such that the activator is at the top of the door thus keeping the switches further from any contamination. Maybe a warning switch at the door top such that the door bottom is at 120% of max chicken height. OR what about a truck inner tube door (free at your local tire shop) with that round but slightly stiff under door weather stop as the frame. This way the chickens (not sure about chicks) will survive any collisions.</p>
<p>Ok, I promise to stop now.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/hardware/jig-and-fixture-parts/32045-uhmw-polyethylene?item=46J9014" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/hardware/jig-and-fixture-parts/32045-uhmw-polyethylene?item=46J9014</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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