I expect the cost to the end user will be many times the $60,000 that @wisam thought was too much. Sorry, you just don't understand cost/benefit accounting nor industrial costs. Spending possibly several million for this class of scanner is a no-brainer if it reduces waste by only 10% of annual sales measured in the 10's of millions. A payback of 10 years is quite acceptable in my experience. The likelihood is it will reduce waste by the high 90's so payback will be almost instantaneous.

@wisam you now have at least a moral if not legal responsibility to report this back to the end user and this topic needs to be marked 'solved'.

https://www.imveurope.com/white-paper/understanding-line-scan-camera-applications

Hopefully, you will get an idea of the pros and cons of using the cameras for high speed defect detection. will I'm retired now, the big machine at our mill was running @ 3450 fpm...or 57.5 fps,  that's equivalent to 17.53 mps Metes per second !  Good luck with your project.. and keeps us informed of your progress..

kind regards,

LouisR

I just realized this is even worse than I thought.

I thought he represented the plastic film company and was looking to install a defect detection system. It turns out that is somebody else who has asked him if his CCTV system can be turned into a defect detection system. He then contacted a vision company but he is basking at $60,000 to pay for some development. That is dirt cheap, only 1 person month

He is trying to use us to help him invent a product that he will get paid handsomely for. 

Can you imagine in your former job asking the internet to do your job for you? If I had done that they would fire me so fast.

In the original post by @wisam he did state that they were a surveillance company and a client wondered if they could use their system to monitor the plastic for defects at the same time!

"when detected by the surveillance camera that will be installed simultaneously with the applied solution."

My fault for not reading the post properly for which I can only apologize. A simple "not practical/possible would probably have been the best answer.

Also, the actual coding part is about 20% of the project cost at most.

It seems to me the factory itself needs to contact people that specialize in industrial vision systems. They would have the hardware and programmers capable of writing the code to run on their systems. An algorithm would have to be written or neural net trained on thousands of examples to recognize the defects and then integrated into the software environment of their vision systems. Maybe it costs $60,000 to employ a programmer with the knowledge and coding skills to realize a solution.

I doubt your cctv cameras would be up to the task of capturing images at high speed? These images would have to be sent to the computer that does the image processing. I for example use webcams to capture images to process them using a pc but that would not be fast enough for the application you have presented.

We are not a free or a fee based consultancy, we are hobbyists.

$60,000 is cheap, something like 1 person month or less. Take the deal!!!

Based on at least a 5 yr payback, that's $1,000 a month or roughly $250 a week, $50 a day. or $6.25 an hour. That is about 1/3 minimum wage here in Canada.

Just an FYI, when I last worked as a consultant, I charged close to $200 USD an hour, with inflation that would now be at least $330. That is $2,640 a day, $13,200 a week, $52,800 for 4 weeks.

The $60,000 is a bargain although it will probably go up even as much as double or more if you do not communicate well with the consultants, and based on what has transpired here, that is guaranteed to happen. But amortize it over 5 years and you will see how cheap it is.

We are a CCTV and networks company, and this matter was presented to us by the owners of one of the factories. We contacted a company specialized in industrial visions, after a week-long study, they suggested developing software to detect defects and send alert, but the surprise was at the cost of the software - $60,000, so we resorted to alternative solutions.