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Alternative to ATTiny85/212/412 running at up to 9 volts?

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 kabl
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Hello again everyone πŸ™‚

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I am tinkering with some projects requiring an ATTiny. To keep things simple I would like to use as few parts as possible. The powersource is 8.4 volts and so far I have been using a voltage regulator to bring the voltage down to 5 volts.

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To save components I have been trying to find an alternative chip that can handle up to 9 volts, but still run nicely at 5 volts too. So far I have not been able to find such a replacement.

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Do you have any suggestions?

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Kind regards, Knut


   
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@kabl I am not aware of any, but then my memory is bad. I would never pick a board based on voltage, it's so trivial to adapt almost any supply to almost any voltage needed. I used to do a lot with RV's which are 12V, I had a standard rig of a buck from 12 to 7ish then a VR from 7ish to 5. YMMV.

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Posted by: @kabl

Hello again everyone πŸ™‚

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I am tinkering with some projects requiring an ATTiny. To keep things simple I would like to use as few parts as possible. The powersource is 8.4 volts and so far I have been using a voltage regulator to bring the voltage down to 5 volts.

Β 

To save components I have been trying to find an alternative chip that can handle up to 9 volts, but still run nicely at 5 volts too. So far I have not been able to find such a replacement.

Β 

Do you have any suggestions?

Β 

Kind regards, Knut

Instead of a standard voltage regulator, you can use an LDO regulator. You can make a power supply module like this for your setup: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/MCP1700_Mini_Breakout_Board.html

MCP1700 can step down 8.4V to 5V with minimal additional circuitry.

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@kabl

Use an Arduino and let its builtin regulator chop the voltage down to 5V.

Anything seems possible when you don't know what you're talking about.


   
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 kabl
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@zander Yeah, that is my current setup, which I am trying to get away from. Voltage regulators, LDO or otherwise, is a no-go.


   
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 kabl
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@will I need to cut down on parts, to make this project simpler. What I need is a chip that can handle a little higher voltage than the usual 5 volts. Adding an Arduino does _not_ cut down on parts, cost or achieve what I am trying to do. Currently I have a voltage converter in SMD factor that does the job. I am trying to loose that, and make the chip work with the supplied voltage as is.


   
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@kabl Your problem is you are heading in the wrong direction, the current standards re logic voltage are 5V, 3.3V, and 1.8V with 5V the oldest, and 1.8V the newest. I don't see us going up to 9V since it's all about size and low voltage.

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 kabl
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Alright. Either I have to use a voltage regulator, or I could go back to the 555 which can handle the voltage, but that would mean more components again. I found the NXP S912ZVHY32F1VLL, 16bit HCS12Z Microcontroller which can handle up to 18 volts, but its not suitable for my needs.

Thank you all for the pointers so far. I havent played around with this for a long time, scary how quick I forget.


   
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