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@ inq

Well who knows, but I was wondering if all this bandit AI malarky was just some marketing ploy.  I read that it actually boosted those companies share price.  But I also listened to what seemed to me to be a good analysis of where most of these AI companies are heading.  

Posted by: @byron

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Well who knows, but I was wondering if all this bandit AI malarky was just some marketing ploy. 

I am thinking the same thing. My Claude Chat AI mis-speaks and gives me incorrect ways to do things so much I am wondering how the heck AI is breaking out of sand boxes and breaking in networks. I must have the kindergarten model.

@byron, @noweare,

Basically the guy lost his creditability for me on the 400/800V thing.  I'm not exactly sure where his 400 comes from.  We have 120/240V at the house.  The power lines at the street run 7200V and larger power lines running cross country run as high as 765,000V.    Voltage has nothing to do with it, although energy creation does.  Data centers here seem to have more trouble with water limitations than power limitations.

I do believe the way American firms seem to focus mainly on "chat bots" is a misdirection... maybe intentionally or that the average "social media, rabid" person responds best to that type of technology.  I can't help but wonder what is going on behind closed doors.  The items we sometimes see popping out like new drugs, new rocket engines, Math problems solved, new chemistry solutions, self driving cars, robots, nuclear physics... breaking encryption, block-chain.  And although the video suggests China wants it to be open source...  Of course, they want other countries AI to be open source so they can leverage it.  So who is so naive to believe they don't have an internal version that's not open source?  

I do agree that limiting the American technology will backfire and cause China to accelerate their indigenous designs.  Will those designs become open source.  I don't so!  I do also agree the Chinese will likely "win" as we before long will have law suits galore.  Between AI telling some teenager to kill himself to autonomous cars killing someone, to AI writing a book that was copywrited, to land, noise and water usage of the datacenters being sued.   Then there is government involvement to try to "manage AI".  China does not and won't have any of these problems.

Posted by: @noweare

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I must have the kindergarten model.

😉The first grade version is behind a paywall.  

@ inq

Whoops, I linked to the wrong Andre Neil video, I was thinking of his one on the AI investment.  You can find it on his site if interested 

A brief  synopsis is that theres an alarming amount of investment based on borrowed money pouring into AI companies with highly inflated valuations and the predicted future returns upon which bank loans are being made are probably impossible to achieve for the majority of these AI companies leading a crash that will far exceed the Global Financial Crisis in 2006.  And the advances in AI that China is achieving is also likely to severely dent some of those predicted earnings upon which banks are lending a lot of money.

From boom to bust I guess.  And yes I am a bit sceptical of the companies putting out shock horror stories about how AI can toddle off and do its own thing, which just happens to show how advance the companies AI must be...       

But, as I said, who knows. Not me.  I found this other video to be a well presented case for a probable boom and bust scenario.  And as for the video I accidentally linked, of interest,  AI tells me that China has developed an ultra high voltage transmission lines operating at 800kV.  So I ask it how does this compare to the USA.  Here its response:

The big-picture difference is that China has pushed much further into “ultra-high-voltage” in volume and at higher DC levels, while the USA’s backbone transmission is mostly lower-voltage AC (with some very high-voltage HVDC links, but typically not the same “UHV” category scale used in China).

But perhaps that was a Chinese AI response for all I know. 😀 

Posted by: @byron

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But perhaps that was a Chinese AI response for all I know.  

I about bust a gut. 🤣 

I'd have to agree with you (and your reference)... The number of "data centers" going up here is staggering.  Somebody seems to be putting up many in every state and our state governments are struggling to decide, yeah, neah, or how to tax.  What still confounds me is... I don't see how any significant revenue is being generated.  Certainly not enough to offset these huge expenditures.  There is something going on that the public doesn't know about to justify these expenditures. 

I just did a search and pulled this up.  

Disclaimer:  This was used without permission from anyone.

And this bit of verbage really made my day: