No, it was definitely the wall. The office I shared with Hubert Landry, a piping design engineer from Kellogg only had a skylight.

An anecdote:

Hubert used to surf the internet looking for Aggie jokes.

So one day a project team turns up, some from the site in Algeria and the others from Houston.

A procurement guy called John Roberts from Houston was wearing an elaborate ring, something I had never seen before. So I asked him if it was a collegiate ring, he said "Yes" and that it was from Texas A&M. Me "So you're an Aggie, then". You should have seen his face, horror and surprise rolled into one, as he didn't expect a Brit to come out with something like that!

@pugwash

I have been a die-hard Mac fan since I threw a laptop with Win98SE at the wall

At the wall, not out the window?  Even Bill has that signature line from Wozniak!

I did own a MacIntosh for awhile, and in the late 70's and early 80's before the PC came along, I used a UNIX like system on a Z80 based computer that would support eight users with each user having 63K of ram (yes 63K!).  The OS was called Cromix, from a company called Cromemco.  Man have we come a long way and seen so many changes!

Point taken and treated with the contempt it deserves from a radical Mac convert. 

I have been a die-hard Mac fan since I threw a laptop with Win98SE at the wall of my office after the tenth BSOD in one day, trying to run an emacs program provided by my then employer M.W Kellogg of Houston, now Haliburton I think.

I also invested in Apple stock in 2004 and made a small fortune by 2014. It just happened to be one of the few investments that were unaffected by the collapse of the sub-prime market in 2007/8.

So apart from this bloody mouse, I remain a devoted follower!

Have got Ubuntu on a virtual machine in here too. The only thing I missed about Windows was that MS Access was not in the Office Bundle. I hated Filemaker.

Everyone should go to the church of their choice even if it is Stained Glass Windows10.

No hard feelings! ? ? ? 

Did you not see the light through yon "Window" break... Or something like that!

Would that not have been the first clue to use a Windows machine?

I'm sorry, just couldn't resist myself! ? 

Just thought I;d start a separate topic for those on the Forum with an interest in KiCAD.

I've been using Kicad for a little while now (I have some posts about it on my blog: https://mansfield-devine.com/speculatrix/tag/kicad/). While I still prototype most things on perfboard, I really like the way it's now so easy to order up a batch of PCBs for the final design. Makes everything neater, particularly when you use surface mount components.

I'm working on a robot project (not a DB1) and plan to create PCBs for pretty much everything. I've been using JLCPCB and have been very happy with the results. The only downside is that, to keep it affordable (especially when I make a mistake with the design), I have to opt for the cheapest shipping, which usually takes a couple of weeks (I'm in France).

I also use a Mac as my main computer and I had to complement the smart mouse with a good old normal mouse some time back as I found Kindle, Fusion 360, Sketchup, KiCad to name those that spring to mind do not work well with the smart mouse.  (I keep both attached to use at my pleasure).   For KiCad I found I had to change the default colours for the PCB layout module from the default black to better see what was going on.

I have to change to a USB mouse with a wheel to use it because my multi-gesture, touch-sensitive Apple mouse combined with the centre and zoom function of KiCad is driving me insane.

Apart from that, it is not bad!

Unfortunately, I haven't found a way of switching off the centre and zoom function.

The number of holes for TH or vias is given to them in the gerber files.  I doesn't change the price at all, so it's your choice to use SMD or TH.  And on you first order I think you get a $5.00 coupon effectively giving you your first order for shipping and bank charge.  Shipping is via DHL.

I also discovered that it $5 if I order 5 board, and still only $5 if I double that to 10 boards.  I may as well get 10 of them if that's the same price as 5.

I think I noticed is that they don't have any place to say how many through holes there will be?  Does it not matter whether you use SMD or through-hole components?  I'm getting ready to order some components from AliExpress.  Some things are the same price whether through hole or SMD.   Like 2N3904 transistors for example.   I can get 100 of either one for about 80 cents.   In some ways I prefer the through-hole components because I can use them on breadboard designs and perf boards.   If PCBWay doesn't charge anymore for drilling the holes I may as well use through-hole transistors on my Shield design.  I actually went to the PCBWay site to see if I could save money by using SMD.   But I don't see anywhere where they ask how many holes will be drilled.  If they drill holes for free I may as well make holy boards. ?